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News concerning the Zooniverse Team: There are announcements, that they search for further team members.
Besides a forthcoming new project is mentioned.:

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It might be an idea to start a separate Zooniverse thread, for topics relating to Zooniverse jobs etc., as this thread was just for the Chicago Team Meeting, which finished some time ago, so could possibly be locked.

Well, I don't think, that it is time to lock this topic (actually it should never be locked), because I am still waiting for information.:

I sent a PM in Talk to GZ astronomer Brooke aka vrooje and received below reply. She gave permission to make her PM public here.

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And I suspect everyone will be hearing more about some of the things we discussed (though I don't know exactly when).

Cheers,
 -Brooke


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Weird and wonderful / Re: Possible strong gravitational lenses
« on: July 09, 2014, 08:10:12 pm »
New paper:

The Sloan Lens ACS Survey. XII. Extending Strong Lensing to Lower Masses
Yiping Shu, Adam S. Bolton, Joel R. Brownstein, Antonio D. Montero-Dorta, Léon V. E. Koopmans, Tommaso Treu, Raphaël Gavazzi, Matthew W. Auger, Oliver Czoske, Philip J. Marshall, Leonidas A. Moustakas
(Submitted on 8 Jul 2014)
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We present observational results from a new Hubble Space Telescope (HST) Snapshot program to extend the methods of the Sloan Lens ACS (SLACS) Survey to lower lens-galaxy masses. We confirm and model 40 new strong lenses from this program, which we supplement with 58 lenses previously discovered by SLACS.
http://arxiv.org/abs/1407.2240

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Object of the Day / Re: Thursday 9th September 2010: Creative Zooism
« on: July 09, 2014, 05:20:06 pm »
Warning: this topic has not been posted in for at least 120 days.

I found following on the Zooniverse Publication page.:

Creativity in citizen cyberscience: All for one and one for all, Jennett+ 2013.
http://ac.aup.fr/~croda/tclab/creativity&attention2013Material/CharleneJennett.pdf


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Galaxy Zoo: Hubble / Re: Blue Caterpillars: What are they?
« on: July 09, 2014, 04:23:33 pm »
You keep posting interesting objects.

Do you have the AHZ reference for it? and is it a GZ4 object - I assume so since it seems that I am the only person looking at the GZH data these days!

Thanks! You are right, that it is a GZ4 object. Here is the ID.:
http://talk.galaxyzoo.org/#/subjects/AGZ0001j8h

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News concerning the Zooniverse Team: There are announcements, that they search for further team members.
Besides a forthcoming new project is mentioned.:

Copy from the Daily Zooinverse: 
Two jobs up for grabs at the Zooniverse!
Posted on July 7, 2014 by mrniaboc   
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I’m pleased to let you know that we are hiring two new developers. One will involve working on an awesome new project we are building in collaboration with Tate Britain, the world-leading institute for art in the modern era, based in London. For more information and to apply, see here.

The second position is as a front-end web developer with our team based at the Adler Planetarium in Chicago. You can view the job description here.
http://daily.zooniverse.org/2014/07/07/two-jobs-up-for-grabs-at-the-zooniverse/

Related Zooniverse blog post on July 7, 2014 : 
New Zooniverse digital humanities job
http://blog.zooniverse.org/2014/07/07/new-zooniverse-digital-humanities-job

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Suggestions and Comments / Re: A thread to talk about Talk
« on: July 09, 2014, 12:53:29 pm »
If someone reports a PM in the forum, then the admins (not the moderators) are able to read the PM, as far as I know. I wonder, how that works technically? Do the admins receive a copy of the PM, which is reported?

I can't comment on Talk, but by default the Simple Machines software that drives this forum does not allow Admins to read any PMs not intended for them unless it is reported by the recipient to them.
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Thanks for your reply! I might have questions, but since it isn't about Talk, but the forum, it would be an "out of topic discussion". Maybe I am going to start a new topic in "Just Chat" or "Technical Support".

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Suggestions and Comments / Re: A thread to talk about Talk
« on: July 09, 2014, 10:14:13 am »
I understand that this thread, and others about Talk in various Zooniverse projects' Talks, are being read by those in the Zooniverse team who are working on v3 of Talk. As such, they likely welcome further constructive suggestions (more later).

I have one such suggestion, or perhaps a series of suggestions.

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Simple, Clear Rules: Of the Zooniverse forums, this one is the oldest. And we have survived pretty well, so far, without formal, written rules. However, we have had disputes, and some zooite members have been banned (I'm not counting spamsters; universally spamsters are detested, and perma-banned on sight). And more. The purpose of clear rules is to make the process of addressing disputes (and bans, etc) less arbitrary and stressful. And there are several good models, which are successful because they have evolved and thrived; e.g. CosmoQuest's Rules For Posting To This Board

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I had done following post in the forum topic "What good does "REPORT" do, in GZ4 Talk?".:   

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On the forum there is a Posting Guideline available.: http://www.galaxyzooforum.org/index.php?topic=270798.0
In Talk there should be also a posting guideline and a "warning message" on the main page.: "Please read this before posting!" The users shouldn't feel free to post anything.
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To be honest, I am annoyed, that there is still no posting guideline available in any Talk, as far as I know! It is nothing technically, so it isn't difficult to do. There are good reasons, why I think in general and personally, that it is really necessary!!! I don't mean just GZ Talk.

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Object of the Day / Re: Wednesday, 9 July, 2014: Colors, Spray
« on: July 09, 2014, 04:40:20 am »
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This is centered on SDSS J134814.32+152538.1, which has a spectroscopic redshift of 0.057. I'd love to be able to say it - or its northern companion - has been posted before, by ... but I can't!  I do not know how to easily go about finding all the relevant DR7, DR8, and DR9 ObjIds (if I had them, I could search this forum), and even if I did, I do not know how to search GZ Talk for any threads, posts, or comments on any AGZ object/field which may include them.

The objIDs in DR8, DR9 and DR10 are identical.
In DR7 the objID is different. In order to find out the corresponding DR7 objID of a DR8/9/10 ID, one can enter the coordinates in DR7, but there are objects, which are just available in DR8/9/10.
All objects, which are available in DR7 are also available in DR8/9/10.
The galaxies in the current Galaxy Zoo are just available in DR8/9/10, but not in DR7. There are few galaxies (in the current GZ), which are also available in DR7, but the reason is, that there is a control sample and besides some objects are stars in DR7, but in DR8 they are galaxies (objtype).

The DR8/9/10-ID of SDSS J134814.32+152538.1 is 11237668313772064831 and it is available in DR7. Here is the link.:
http://cas.sdss.org/dr7/en/tools/explore/obj.asp?id=587742592547160124


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Suggestions and Comments / Re: A thread to talk about Talk
« on: July 09, 2014, 04:00:51 am »
If someone reports a PM in the forum, then the admins (not the moderators) are able to read the PM, as far as I know. I wonder, how that works technically? Do the admins receive a copy of the PM, which is reported?
In GZ Talk it is still not possible to report PMs, as far as I know. In the forum there is a report button for PMs, but in GZ Talk there isn't. I had mentioned this before, namely in following forum topic.:
What good does "REPORT" do, in GZ4 Talk?
http://www.galaxyzooforum.org/index.php?topic=280523.0

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Copy from another topic:

We've been trying to get Hubble images of some of the Galaxy Zoo overlapping-galaxy pairs for about 5 years now. The program has finally borne fruit - this cycle, a program led by Benne Holwerda was approved. I attribute this in part to his clever formation of the acronym STARSMOG[1] for the project. Another selling point was selection of pairs already known to be at very different redshifts so they can't be interacting with each other and therefore possible distorted). The list of target galaxies so far looks like it will be roughly half Galaxy Zoo finds and half pairs selected from the GAMA redshift survey (these samples do, umm, overlap a good bit). This is a so-called snapshot program - projects using relatively brief observations, typically 30 minutes or less, which can be slotted in between longer ones to fill out gaps in the telescope schedule given it pointing constraints. So we are allowed to send a list of 150 potential targets with no actual guarantee which or how many will be observed; recent years' results suggest we'll get about 50 images.

The science goal is a set of dust-attenuation maps of the foreground spirals, looking only at pairs that have a smooth background system. Among other things, this will inform analysis of supernova luminosities and improve our zero point for the evolution of dust effects with cosmic time (with Hubble Zoo overlaps forming the rest of that effort).

Getting each new data set for this project will be, in the words of a famous (albeit fictional) resident of this state, like a box of chocolates. We never know what we'll get.

[1] STarlight Absorption Reduction through a Survey of Multiple Occulting Galaxies ("reduction" in the sense that the results will allow us to reduce the uncertainties due to this absorption)

Congrats!

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Object of the Day / Re: Monday 7 July 2014: Happy 7th birthday Zoo!
« on: July 08, 2014, 02:55:44 pm »
Copy from another topic:

We've been trying to get Hubble images of some of the Galaxy Zoo overlapping-galaxy pairs for about 5 years now. The program has finally borne fruit - this cycle, a program led by Benne Holwerda was approved. I attribute this in part to his clever formation of the acronym STARSMOG[1] for the project. Another selling point was selection of pairs already known to be at very different redshifts so they can't be interacting with each other and therefore possible distorted). The list of target galaxies so far looks like it will be roughly half Galaxy Zoo finds and half pairs selected from the GAMA redshift survey (these samples do, umm, overlap a good bit). This is a so-called snapshot program - projects using relatively brief observations, typically 30 minutes or less, which can be slotted in between longer ones to fill out gaps in the telescope schedule given it pointing constraints. So we are allowed to send a list of 150 potential targets with no actual guarantee which or how many will be observed; recent years' results suggest we'll get about 50 images.

The science goal is a set of dust-attenuation maps of the foreground spirals, looking only at pairs that have a smooth background system. Among other things, this will inform analysis of supernova luminosities and improve our zero point for the evolution of dust effects with cosmic time (with Hubble Zoo overlaps forming the rest of that effort).

Getting each new data set for this project will be, in the words of a famous (albeit fictional) resident of this state, like a box of chocolates. We never know what we'll get.

[1] STarlight Absorption Reduction through a Survey of Multiple Occulting Galaxies ("reduction" in the sense that the results will allow us to reduce the uncertainties due to this absorption)

Great news! Congrats!

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Object of the Day / Re: Monday 7 July 2014: Happy 7th birthday Zoo!
« on: July 08, 2014, 11:43:44 am »
Speaking of art, there is following new Zooniverse blog post.:

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We’re pleased to announce our new collaboration with Tate Britain, a world-leading institute for art in the modern era, based in London.
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The new transcription interface will enable volunteers to read and transcribe the personal papers of modern British artists. Volunteers will encounter letters, notebooks and sketches that reveal artists’ everyday lives, creative practices and the processes by which great works of art were made.

We are seeking a talented front end developer with a passion for art and the humanities to work alongside our humanities specialist and the Zooniverse and Tate teams to deliver the project.
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http://blog.zooniverse.org/2014/07/07/new-zooniverse-digital-humanities-job/

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Object of the Day / Re: Monday 7 July 2014: Happy 7th birthday Zoo!
« on: July 08, 2014, 11:20:59 am »
Happy Birthday to my favourite forum!

[image]

My pet thread has to be the Pure Art Thread Thank you to my creative friends there, and to all those that have helped answer my many questions over the years. xxxxx

Yes, "Pure Art" is worth mentioning!
I would like to mention following slideshow, where some of the images, which had been posted by volunteers* in "Pure Art", are presented.:

Art from Galaxy Zoo
http://picasaweb.google.com/117582040340567526061/ArtFromGalaxyZoo?authkey=Gv1sRgCOD6md7U38eoDA&gsessionid=eYTgX6zdrUluQP1sM2ekoA#5408804654602133554

* namely AlexandredOr, Alice, Caro, echo-lily-mai, Elizabeth, Ioannab, Jules, lemsgate, lizardly, pluk and stellar190

Great work!!!

PS: The "birthday card" by you is also great work!

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Suggestions and Comments / Re: A thread to talk about Talk
« on: July 08, 2014, 06:43:54 am »
@joi2cjoi : As you know, Hanny, who is a forum moderator, did below comment! I think, that her comment is reasonable. So I don't understand, why you nonetheless try to continue the discussion!
BTW, her post (2 days ago in this topic), which is related to a discussion between Capella and me, is also reasonable in my opinion.

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Well to be honest I think it's best if you ask one of the moderators on Talk. I don't think you will find an answer to this from anyone official here. I think the main goal of this thread is for suggestions. :)
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Following part is for everyone's information:
 
I would like to mention, that in the previous Talk versions there is following statement in the tutorial.:
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Keywords.
When commenting on an object or contributing to a discussion it is useful, both for your own reference, for the scientists and for the Talk community in general if you can add appropriate keywords. This is very simple, simply add a # (hash tag) in front of the word or words, for example #planet, #alien, #scallop, #ancient-text. These keywords are then used to create a the list of 'trending keywords' on the Talk homepage and they also allow people to make 'keyword collections'. Throughout Talk keywords are generally highlighted, you can click on them and they will take you directly to a page of search results.

Besides I would like to mention, that in GZ Talk there are suggestions related to keywords, e.g. following one.:

Is there a list of #keywords Started September 19 2012 by samsalas
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I've combed the site and found no #list of #keywords and their #meanings. This would be very helpful. I'm sure there has to be one, but I can't find it.
http://talk.galaxyzoo.org/#/boards/BGZ0000002/discussions/DGZ1006702

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PS: I noticed, that the above Talk discussion contains also comments by Budgieye and Elisabeth, but please note, that they hadn't been moderators in GZ Talk at that time (2 years ago), as far as I know!

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Suggestions and Comments / Re: A thread to talk about Talk
« on: July 06, 2014, 09:18:58 am »
So I shouldn't be blamed for informing about that topic, but Talk should be blamed for not having a "Slightly-Secret" Board !!!
I felt a bit uncomfortable about the reply by Capella to my post.


I am on Holiday. I am travelling - the only way I can write the thread is doing it piece by piece and posting it one step at a time  :)
I just feel uncomfortable that you had posted a link, when it was perfectly clear in the original thread that it was a work in progress.

Why "perfectly clear"? ??? The Talk topic starts with below words! If you however think, that it is perfectly clear, then it should be actually no problem, that I informed about it!!! I feel uncomfortable, because you blame me, but there is actually no reason in my opinion! It is just an informative post!



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Capella05 moderator

In the second of the series, I thought we would go back to basics and write a tutorial on how to make your way around talk. At the same time I will explain how to use some of the features.
If you are a seasoned user, you can tune off now.:)
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http://talk.galaxyzoo.org/#/boards/BGZ0000005/discussions/DGZ0000utn

Um, perhaps it is because I always create a post at the end of the thread saying there is more to come soon  ;)

But, time is short, and I am not going to waste it in a pointless discussion.

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Um, perhaps it is because I always create a post at the end of the thread saying there is more to come soon  ;)
Sorry, but I wouldn't call this "perfectly clear". I would call it unclear, especially unclear for seasoned users, because in your 1st post of the Talk topic you wrote "If you are a seasoned user, you can tune off now."
Recently you did following statement in this forum topic.:
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(...)As it got mentioned in a previous post - we are not all native English speakers. So, you have to be clear, concise and not expect the reader to have knowledge of a previous post.
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Well, you shouldn't expect the reader to have knowledge, that you "always create a post at the end of the thread saying there is more to come soon." !!! In the last post, which you did on 4th July in the Talk topic, there is given "to follow...". (The previous post is dated 3rd July.)

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But, time is short, and I am not going to waste it in a pointless discussion.
You blamed me and now you say, that you don't want to waste your time in a pointless discussion. I think, that this isn't fair. I think, that as a Talk moderator you should actually spend your time in order to try clarifying this matter, because this discussion is related to Talk.
I would liked to know, why you think, that the topic isn't certainly ready to be distributed within a wider audience, when it was perfectly clear (in your opinion) in the original thread, that it was a work in progress? Why shouldn't one inform about a topic, which is in progress?

PS: Have a nice holiday!

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