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Astronomical Dreams & Schemes: Ideas for further meet-ups!
« on: February 11, 2008, 04:56:40 pm »
We had such a good time at the Astrofest meet-up that I want to form 2 new threads to arrange further ones. This one will be for us to throw ideas around - no matter where we are in the world; people on other continents can suggest meet-ups where they are, and if necessary I will help you start co-ordinating these events (it's not difficult - and SO rewarding!). Another one, which I will start as and when, will be for definite arrangements in place.

Here are the first set of ideas, starting around here in Just Chat:

Geoff Roynon says:
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Maybe we should have a special thread for 'Next GZ Do' - something for Alice to look at when she gets home.

We could have it in Greenwich and visit the planetarium and observatory. If the weather is kind we could also have a picnic in the park but that would require some forward planning, arranging food, blankets, etc.

Something to think about. Any other suggestions?

Glad everyone got back all right last night. Pity the noise in the pub was too loud for proper conversation. A most enjoyable day and evening.

Geoff


(I think next time we should avoid the pub and go somewhere really civilised. I love the planetarium/picnic idea - we would all be able to hear each other, and not depend on unscrupulous bossy money-launderers!)

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Might I request that another meet could be held oop north, for the convenience of those of us who don't travel quite so well?  Jodrell Bank as a reference point springs to mind...

..and for timing, how  about after the schools and unis have done for summer.


Good point, though I like the idea of doing Geoff's at Easter, or perhaps in the summer half term, if people don't think that's too soon (frankly, I'm up for meeting any of you again this weekend or similar!!).

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I visited the Greenwich Observatory today and have some details about the planetarium. During the week there are 4 shows each day starting at 1pm and then every hour, last show at 4pm. Weekends and holidays there are 6 shows starting at 11am and every hour until 4pm.
Tickets are £6 for adults and £4 for children.
We can get a group discount for 10 or more people, e.g. 10 adults would be £48 so £4.80 each.

I will scout around during the week for more information about things to do in the area.

Geoff


And Fluffy has a seriously cool idea:
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we could always meet up for some astronomical event. I know its a while away yet, but just using it as an example as its the 1st that popped into my head. But how about meeting up to watch a meteor shower or some such? it be incredibly cool to watch it together!


Please add more, everybody! ;D
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Re: Astronomical Dreams & Schemes: Ideas for further meet-ups!
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2008, 05:08:54 pm »
Now, I have a fairly radical idea, that is probably going just a bit too far - but the idea hit me about 5 minutes onto my train journey home, and my mind has been buzzing with it ever since . . .

I think we should do a little residential practical astronomy course - run entirely by and for ourselves. That is to say - I think we should jointly rent a holiday cottage or something like that for a few days, somewhere dark, and everyone who owns astronomical equipment (telescopes, binoculars, star charts, cool cameras, anything!) should bring it along and teach the rest of us to use it, or just give some cool demos. Maybe you don't own any and you don't know any practical astronomy - I sure don't, so I would love to get a chance at using it, imagine how exciting it would be . . . and I hope those showing/teaching would enjoy it, too, and get something out of it for themselves . . .

It sounds crazy, I know. It would require not so much as tapping into, as ruthlessly exploiting, the vast reservoirs of niceness and kindness I saw in all of you on Saturday evening! It would be a good idea to share transport and so on. We should all bring some of our favourite books, films, games . . . all the astronomy (or not!) things we've been meaning to see, and that everyone else wants to see and has never got round to, we can do together. Those who like cooking, like me, can take care of that.

If anyone else is up for something like this, I reckon during the next Perseids (meteor shower) would be the ideal time. They're in early/mid August - 12th August was great last year, from what I remember. It coincides with school holidays, and hopefully good weather (it might rain the entire time, but I'm sure we'd still have a laugh).

I don't know if this would be anyone else's sort of thing. I'm used to living with strangers and two years ago I went on a "retreat" with the Creative Writing Society (all students) in a holiday cottage, which worked very well - it was cheap, everyone was really sweet and hardworking and co-operative although we were several to a room, and there were lots of themes and events planned so nobody got indecisive or bored. I'm sure lots of us would have things we'd like to show/teach/chat about with everyone else, and maybe we could also go walking and sightseeing in the local area and that kind of thing. It would also be time to relax a bit, which was difficult at Astrofest because it involved spending a lot of time travelling to get to London for just a few hours, and ending up wandering around between noisy pubs, without really time even to speak to everybody! If we were willing to "camp" a bit, it wouldn't be as expensive as say going to a hotel to lie around trying to get skin cancer. And of course, for those who don't want to camp, you could find another hotel or something nearby and come along for meals and stargazing with everyone else.

Personally, for me it would be perfect. But I realise it may not be anybody else's cup of tea. What does everyone think?
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Re: Astronomical Dreams & Schemes: Ideas for further meet-ups!
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2008, 05:27:05 pm »
Heheh ;D :D Geoff adds:
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I can bring some biltong along but I need a week's notice as it takes 5-6 days to dry properly. We'll need to bring something else along for the vegetarians  Wink  The banana drop scones might be all right but they are better hot or warm.
There is a tearoom at the observatory which has coffee/tea and cold drinks and tables which are outside where we could sit if it's not too busy (and not raining).

I also need to check the pubs and see which ones allow children. The pubs on the river are nice but get very crowded but there are some "inland" which have gardens. Will make a list. Anyone interested in joining me on a pub crawl through Greenwich for research purposes  Grin

Geoff


All further ideas to be posted in here, please! ;)
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« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2008, 06:35:16 pm »
There was a leaflet at the 'fest about a residential place in ANdalucia that looked brill, a couple of us were talking about it. Might be pie in the sky:)

Greenwich during the Leonids, we get surprisingly good skies sometimes in London (and sometimes we don't but I've seen the Leo's from somewhere or other every year for .... too long:)

Gat back to you soon, gotta go. And I just LOVE the biltong idea, I'd even get a biltong box and join in.

ATB

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can make carrot cake for veggies......

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Re: Astronomical Dreams & Schemes: Ideas for further meet-ups!
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2008, 06:37:23 pm »
Andalucia? Well as it happens I lived there for a year - my Spanish is oxidadisimo (very rusty) but I can brush up again!

Not a good place for vegetarians though . . .
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« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2008, 10:03:45 pm »
Ah well, there are many places that aren't. SA must be the worst. (and Germany, Austria - in winter at least; most of France; Ireland; Argentina; I won't go on. The world would be a very strange place if we were all vegetarian and the English landscape would be - unthinkable! All the cows and sheep in zoos! A  fowl museum; no eggs! Plastic saddles!!

I only keep eating meat for the landscape you - and The Archers:)

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« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2008, 10:43:30 pm »
Alice, I absolutly LOVE your idea!  ;D

If it wasn't so expencive to come to London every now and then I probably would! :) though our boattrip was absolutly amazing and not expensive, it is a lot of money... but I heard there are cheaper ways, so I'll better check those out! :)

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« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2008, 10:56:17 pm »
In response to Alice's idea about bringing along kit to a residential school I've got an 8 inch reflecting telescope that is woefully underused (I haven't had a chance to see anything through it for at least 5 years :() I'd love to bring that along, and learn how to use it and everything. It's also not something I'll be able to strap to my motorbike and take on the train, so I'd need help transporting it.

On a personal note, I've always wanted to see M8, but its too low in the sky for me, light polution and normal difficulties seeing an object that low down have always prevented me. I was taught to plan out excatly what I was going to look at... do you reckon we could see Hanny's Voorwerp for ourselves?
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Re: Astronomical Dreams & Schemes: Ideas for further meet-ups!
« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2008, 11:11:32 pm »
So my idea isn't that crazy . . . you know, deep down, I feel it's perfect . . . a day-trip to Greenwich first, though, I think! ;D

And any of you who came along, if you're ever in Cornwall and you need a place to crash, give me a call. :)
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« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2008, 11:28:51 pm »
lol, baby steps first.

I think what we'd need is a good plan, not only in what to do, but perhaps if one of the ZooKeepers could find the time to guide us, enough rooms for everyone to sleep in, the right kit (always good) and a set plan of what we are going to see, then it should be a winner
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« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2008, 11:30:46 pm »
Just one thing - one of us, probably me, possibly someone else who is experienced in such things, but not one of the zookeepers, to find us the place. They have enough to do (and frankly, they wouldn't do it - well, why should they?).
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« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2008, 11:32:38 pm »
I wasn't thinking they should find the place, that would be horrifically unfair, but to stand to one side and explain what we're looking at perhaps...

And (this is something I picked up from Re-enactment) a nice fire for everyone to sit around whilst the stargazing kit is in use
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« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2008, 11:41:59 pm »
Oh I get you, astronomy-wise not house-wise!

Yeah, that would be great. Actually, I do hope lots or all the zookeepers would join us, just for a little holiday if nothing else - they need it!

And I like the idea of the fire - we mustn't forget the marshmallows!  ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2008, 11:45:52 pm »
And I like the idea of the fire - we mustn't forget the marshmallows!  ;D ;D ;D


Oh some of us better try and bring their guitars! ;D

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« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2008, 11:48:38 pm »
Haven't tried marshmallows yet (I know, I've lead a sheltered life, but I'm hoping that'll be changed soon) but its really nice and comforting, if you want, I'll bring my Battledress for added amusement value ;)

It would be a bit difficult with the telescope though... we'd have to be careful not to ruin peoples' night vision.

And yes, the Zookeepers deserve a break, how cruel of us to give them so much work to be getting on with  ;) ;)
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