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Re: Search first, post afterwards
« Reply #15 on: August 16, 2007, 11:54:38 pm »
Today I got a hit in UGC 11865 or NGC 4535.  (I hope these are correct.)  The galaxy
is posted at least twice in the forums under different ObjID's.  A little work shows that
different ObjID's within this galaxy can vary by at least 3 digits. 

The hit I got is

http://cas.sdss.org/astro/en/tools/explore/obj.asp?id=588017730300543029

The search hits are for ID's 588017730300543012 and 588017730300543026.

The ObjID 588017730300543660 is also in the galaxy.  Every one of the blue circles in
this link may have an ObjID.  Zooming out once gives some idea of the pontential problem.

http://cas.sdss.org/astro/en/tools/chart/navi.asp?ra=188.58449&dec=8.19802&opt=P

Maybe I am crazy, but I think that searching for a galaxy in the posts is not easy
with ObjID's unless people use, as suggested, the ObjID for the center of the galaxy.

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« Reply #16 on: September 06, 2007, 02:12:49 pm »
I for one am getting confused by all the possible ways of identifying the objects. Im the posts I have read, I remember at least three terms:

reference number
objID
coordinates

and I suspect there are more. Coordinates is somewhat self explanatory, though where to get these is not. I think the intro tutorial could use an eplanation of these as well as how best to post these to the forums. (I know there are post on how to do this, but it should be easier). Also, those using Fire Fox, Opra, etc. browsers need to understand that those are not standard browsers and their suggestions, unless the browser is specified, may be quite confusing..

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« Reply #17 on: September 21, 2007, 01:00:54 am »
When you do searches you should do them from the ZOO FORM level (the first one you enter)
If  not then you are only doing searches in the current directory and the one's attached (below) it

Galaxy Zoo Forum > The objects > Weird and wonderful >
From this level ^^     NOT ^^^     or   ^^^^^^           or any of the threads in the last directory

That is one reason there are so many repeat posts ... a search from a sub level instead of the overall

I like the OBJID - last three process...   

It takes into consideration that there may be several object attached to the same massive object

I did a search on the an object that I found today and did my normal search ... nothing

Did it again minus the last three digits and found the same picture
but they had different endings and they were at different points on the same object

so I guess the new process is SEARCH FROM THE MAIN FORUM and USE THE OBJNO minus LAST THREE DIGITS...

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« Reply #18 on: September 21, 2007, 08:32:23 am »
Good tip about the OBJID Stegra!

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« Reply #19 on: September 24, 2007, 06:57:56 am »
 ;D ;D Yes it is fluffy but sometimes even that does not work. 3000 post that is awesome. congrats. my only question is have you decided to take a vacation? way to go  ;D ;D ;D ;)

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« Reply #20 on: September 26, 2007, 10:07:42 pm »
I mentioned this in another forum but will mention it here again.  If it's not a brand new post..try searching google for your reference number.  That's helped me and has been easier in a lot of cases.  I just keep google open in another tab.

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« Reply #21 on: October 03, 2007, 10:48:20 pm »
Now I'm really confused.  I just saw in another forum someone posted a pic and said they searched and it did come up but not in a sticky so it was ok to post the pic again.  I thought that no matter where it was, if it has been posted before, you were suppose to use a link and not the entire pic.  But, this person is a prolific poster.  Now what's a girl to think?

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« Reply #22 on: October 03, 2007, 10:50:49 pm »
Hmmmmmm, well, let's say I'd rather people didn't do that! Not an example to be followed, please.

Although it is a bit annoying if it's in an ancient thread down near the bottom of Weird and Wonderful or similar, where it would never be seen anyway. Best thing to do is perhaps provide a link to that thread. If only I had infinite time I could go back and bring in all the ones to be merged with the stickies!! Or perhaps we need infinite moderators?  ;) :D
« Last Edit: October 03, 2007, 11:24:56 pm by Alice »

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« Reply #23 on: October 04, 2007, 07:05:52 am »
That was me ;)

And for the record, I frequently ask people to follow the guidlines and of course want to do that myself too! Now, I had an object a while ago and made a new topic for that, 'cause I had a question about it. (Dont know what anymore, sorry). Then people agreed it should be posted in a sticky and I had a question about that, 'cause I didnt want to just double post indeed! Now, I think I misunderstood the answer then, 'cause I thought it was OK (and appreciated) to post it like that again (otherwise I wouldnt have done it of course AND mentioned I had searched before etc...)

So, from now on I'll just post likes instead of course ;)

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« Reply #24 on: October 04, 2007, 03:38:08 pm »
Poor Hanny - I am sorry if that was an embarrassment. You're a great help on this forum and have pointed lots of people in the right direction; many people here are really sweet and helpful to newbies, and I want to send you thanks every day!

It is a bit difficult to decide on precisely what's going on. When the forum was first created, and undergoing inflation faster than the Universe did in its first few seconds after the Big Bang, not that much bandwidth was being used to slow things up and there was no time for anyone to recognise duplicates! This is no longer true. Then we had a stage of trying to avoid them as much as possible - especially with things going slow. Sadly, people were unhappy on both sides. Some people were understandably irritated when they saw something posted for the sixth or so time. Others equally reasonably asked, when I asked them not to duplicate images, why I was "picking on" them rather than the several other people doing it (because I couldn't get to everyone at once is the answer . . .). Now a new worry has arrived: what if a time comes - it may be almost upon us - when all the amazing pictures have been found and posted and there's no point posting your pictures any more? Would people give up?

So I hope I haven't confused people too much - that's all I can say!!!

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« Reply #25 on: October 05, 2007, 01:42:16 pm »
Hey Alice, don't worry about it ;) I'm not embarrassed, that's why I said here it was me ;D And thank you very much :-*

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« Reply #26 on: October 18, 2007, 08:13:13 pm »
Everyone here is talking about searching the forum... is there an easy way to do this with keywords or something cos when I click on the forum I just pick the easiest selection cos I have Nooooo idea what I am looking for! :-[

So there are many people that classify one pic, is that how it works? Do you take an average on each one or something? Cos I would hate to think that you're just taking my word for it LOL what I think would help me increase the effectiveness of my analysis is if I see a statistic (after I classify it) that tells me what the percentage of votes everyone else has given it... sometimes I think I might have just classified a star as an Elliptical Galaxy!

Anyway I am totally addicted and having fun with it, I just hope my contribution is a helpful one 8)

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« Reply #27 on: October 18, 2007, 08:18:56 pm »
Everyone here is talking about searching the forum... is there an easy way to do this with keywords or something cos when I click on the forum I just pick the easiest selection cos I have Nooooo idea what I am looking for! :-[

So there are many people that classify one pic, is that how it works? Do you take an average on each one or something? Cos I would hate to think that you're just taking my word for it LOL what I think would help me increase the effectiveness of my analysis is if I see a statistic (after I classify it) that tells me what the percentage of votes everyone else has given it... sometimes I think I might have just classified a star as an Elliptical Galaxy!

Anyway I am totally addicted and having fun with it, I just hope my contribution is a helpful one 8)

first i'm glad you're addicted and enjoying like the rest of use
the best thing to use in a search is the ref number (in yellow on the analysis page) to see if an object has been posted before. And yes the galaxy classification will be a consensus of about 30 (ithink its 30 now anyway!) users so mistakes should be statistically removed! if you're got a question about something scientific, you can always post a question and others wil lpoint you in the right direction! hope that helps :)

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« Reply #28 on: October 18, 2007, 08:22:11 pm »
Thankyou fluffly  ;)

I see the place to stick the number now, I plan to make my best friend  :D

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« Reply #29 on: August 11, 2008, 11:28:08 am »
I am just posting here to to bring this to the attention of the Newbies.
 Newbies, post here, also, for questions about the search feature and I will try to assist.

  Tom
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