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Re: Peas Project
« Reply #510 on: October 05, 2008, 03:20:36 pm »
Hi ccardamone - So, what are the errors associated with your NII/H(alpha) ratios ? (+/- 50% ?) ;D
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I plotted all points where the S/N ratio was higher than 3.  The errors are a bit more complicated because it is also a function of how well the template fits the spectrum.  I'd say they are good to at least 50%.




Hi ccardamone,
I am trying to read the chart you provided and am just wondering why NII/H(alpha) ratios have negative values in it?

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Re: Peas Project
« Reply #511 on: October 05, 2008, 03:48:21 pm »
Hi ccardamone - So, what are the errors associated with your NII/H(alpha) ratios ? (+/- 50% ?) ;D
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I plotted all points where the S/N ratio was higher than 3.  The errors are a bit more complicated because it is also a function of how well the template fits the spectrum.  I'd say they are good to at least 50%.




Hi ccardamone,
I am trying to read the chart you provided and am just wondering why NII/H(alpha) ratios have negative values in it?


They are logs of the ratios.
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« Reply #512 on: October 07, 2008, 08:30:18 pm »
We Nazguls eat Gandalf for breakfast  ;D

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« Reply #513 on: October 07, 2008, 08:41:08 pm »
So basically you are finding very-low metallicity starburst in presumably very small galaxies?

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« Reply #514 on: October 08, 2008, 01:33:50 am »
Ooops!!  I have to post an update to my previous plot - on it I had included the AGN with Broad Lines as if they were part of the BPT diagnostic.  This is untrue and inaccurate!  Of the peas I was fitting 53 are Broad Line AGN.  For these I cannot use the diagnostic plot (BPT diagram), because it was developed for use ONLY with narrow line objects. Further we already know they are AGN because star forming galaxies do not have the broad lines.

So reconsidering, I can label 53 of the Peas as AGN from their broad line emission alone (I used the cutoff of the width of an emission line greater than 1000 km/s - taking the number from a text book by Osterbrock).

Now the plot looks much better:  We have 52 star forming peas, 9 galaxies in the transition region (Green points) and 9 galaxies above the cutoff - meaning they are type 2 AGN - this means AGN with narrow lines and not broad lines.
(for more information on AGN you can check out http://cass.ucsd.edu/public/tutorial/AGN.html)

All of the X-ray sources are AGN as one would expect from their X-ray luminosity.
The Star Formation rates for those labeled as Star Forming galaxies (the points in red on the plot) range from 2 to 33 Msun / year). 
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« Reply #515 on: October 08, 2008, 05:59:09 am »
Carrie has asked if we could do a quick check on the 439 possible Peas that had been selected automatically.

For each of these images select between Pea, possibly pea and not a Pea.  This is to be a purely VISUAL check - no detailed analysis is needed, just look through these and decide which are Peas - Green and featureless.

This task will only run for a very short time.

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« Reply #516 on: October 08, 2008, 06:13:32 am »
Started now.  :)

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« Reply #517 on: October 08, 2008, 06:37:45 am »
Finished now.  ;)

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« Reply #518 on: October 08, 2008, 06:45:39 am »
I finished too... :D ;D

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« Reply #519 on: October 08, 2008, 07:00:00 am »
LOL Me too  :D Brillant!!!

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Re: Peas Project
« Reply #520 on: October 08, 2008, 07:04:58 am »
 ;D ;D ;D oh yeah I finished also. ;)
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« Reply #521 on: October 08, 2008, 08:21:15 am »
I removed the first graph from the previous page and am putting this new one up so people don't
have to log on to see it. Thanks Carrie for your hard work in sorting this out...



EDIT: Done.
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« Reply #522 on: October 08, 2008, 08:29:12 am »
done  :)

Quite many of the objects were not even green...

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« Reply #523 on: October 08, 2008, 09:37:00 am »
I removed the first graph from the previous page and am putting this new one up so people don't
have to log on to see it. Quite a difference from the previous one now, don't you think? So the number
of starburst galaxies has halved, and some are found to have star forming rates of 2 MSun/y, which
is well below our own galaxies rate. They seem nicely grouped though now. How many will be left at
the end of the process I wonder. Thanks Carrie for your hard work in sorting this out...

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Hi Rick - Can I make people aware that images posted as attachments using "additional options" can be enlarged simply by single clicking the image.
(Certainly in Firefox anyway !).

This generates the same image as in your posting.

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Edit: I didn't realise that you can't do this if you're visiting this site as a guest ! Sorry about that folks ! ;D ;D
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Re: Peas Project
« Reply #524 on: October 08, 2008, 09:42:54 am »
Hi ccardamone - So, what are the errors associated with your NII/H(alpha) ratios ? (+/- 50% ?) ;D
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I plotted all points where the S/N ratio was higher than 3.  The errors are a bit more complicated because it is also a function of how well the template fits the spectrum.  I'd say they are good to at least 50%.

Hi ccardamone - I think that it would be interesting to see an additional graph with the error boxes included, even if it looks messy.

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