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Re: Give peas a chance!
« Reply #930 on: March 21, 2008, 05:24:28 pm »
Anyone else here noticed that the spectral chart of Hanny's Voorwerp posted on the Galaxyzooblog is a classic OIII "Pea" spectrum?
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Re: Give peas a chance!
« Reply #931 on: March 21, 2008, 05:24:46 pm »
twin peas, sadly no spectrum
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Re: Give peas a chance!
« Reply #932 on: March 21, 2008, 09:09:49 pm »
That's certainly interesting, Starry Nite. What are your thoughts?
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Re: Give peas a chance!
« Reply #933 on: March 21, 2008, 09:42:10 pm »
Two thoughts occur at the moment:
Hanny's Voorwerp reminds me of some of the Blue Compact Dwarf Galaxies that also don't have a defined core.
And does the OIII peak end at the top of the spectral chart, or is it taller?
[Edit: NGC3314 said:
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The higher of the two [O III] peaks does go somewhat "off the chart", the better to show the other weaker features. If you could see the rest of it, it would be three times as high as the other [O III] peak immediately to its left (blueward).

So that's about 1950 by my estimation; not the highest OIII peak we've seen, but a powerful one.]
« Last Edit: March 22, 2008, 04:06:54 am by starry nite »
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Re: Give peas a chance!
« Reply #934 on: March 22, 2008, 03:53:56 am »
Hey well spotted Starry
Kinda strange that the Voorwerp Kid and the Peakeeper should actually have a real connection.
Key the spooky music. DoDadodadoda.......
Sometimes i really wonder about statistical probability and chance. what are the odds?

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Re: Give peas a chance!
« Reply #935 on: March 22, 2008, 04:33:01 am »
These two peas are within a stones throw of each other but look totally different
GALAXY    ra=222.59430791, dec=11.40391546,   ObjId = 587736915142967315
http://cas.sdss.org/astro/en/tools/explore/obj.asp?id=587736915142967315



Visually Doesn't look like a pea
http://cas.sdss.org/astro/en/tools/explore/obj.asp?id=587736915142902073
GALAXY    ra=222.51435638, dec=11.37238526,   ObjId = 587736915142902073

« Last Edit: March 22, 2008, 11:08:58 am by Galaxy Hunters Inc »

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Re: Give peas a chance!
« Reply #936 on: March 22, 2008, 11:45:20 am »
Having not read through the entire thread (call me lazy – I can't be bothered to read 63 pages ;)) I may be wrong, but is this one?
Ref: 587739652107600089.


It's spectrum looks similar to some already posted
Boyle's law: The greater the external pressure, the greater the volume of hot air.

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Re: Give peas a chance!
« Reply #937 on: March 22, 2008, 11:46:06 am »
Just from looking at the first post (heh heh) yeah sure! ;)

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Re: Give peas a chance!
« Reply #938 on: March 22, 2008, 12:48:09 pm »
Previously-posted but a perfect pea.
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Re: Give peas a chance!
« Reply #939 on: March 22, 2008, 03:13:48 pm »

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Re: Give peas a chance!
« Reply #940 on: March 22, 2008, 03:27:06 pm »
posted in the mergers thread, but it has a nice pea chart
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Re: Give peas a chance!
« Reply #941 on: March 22, 2008, 05:50:06 pm »
Celebratory list; 106 and counting!

Listing For Green(ish) [OIII] ELGs up to 23/03/08. Apparently they are actually red.
r' = detector "sees" actual red.    Screen display as green


Galaxies showing flat spectra except extreme peaks at OII-III, ionised oxygen.
Redshift range 0.144 - 0.354. The majority are found between 0.2 - 0.3, which is about 3-4 billion years ago.
Typical Spectrum:   http://cas.sdss.org/astro/en/tools/explore/obj.asp?id=587724199349387411   
Numerical Sorting of 106 galaxies, 14 with no NED ref.
     
      I wonder if the "pea selection" yields a sample of interesting objects....


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      588848901003542800    no.106
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Re: Give peas a chance!
« Reply #942 on: March 23, 2008, 02:03:57 am »
This is supposed to be a quasar star. Its chart is peaish.
I'm still not convinced that there isn't some formula stating that the OIII ( In my terms i think that means Triply ionised oxygen?) isn,t a certain percentage above the background.
These border line charts may tell us what processes are going on to go up to or come down from the supper high OIII? does anyone else think the same way? Sorry my chemistry stops at how much sugar to put in a cup of coffee. so I'm just guessing


This looks like a back to front chart
I don't fully understand z charts but Fermats Brother was saying that about .85 was the highest Z for a pea. The OIII seems at the wrong end of the chart
Maybe some one else understands? ( I,ve tried bashing my head against the wall it does't work for me, SIGH, LOL)
STAR    ra=208.06983235, dec=2.7573619,   ObjId = 587726033334567091
http://cas.sdss.org/astro/en/tools/explore/obj.asp?id=587726033334567091



Sorry if this doesn't make sense. I think like a marble in a bucket. LOL
« Last Edit: March 23, 2008, 02:46:59 am by Galaxy Hunters Inc »

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Re: Give peas a chance!
« Reply #943 on: March 23, 2008, 02:43:46 am »
TAIL END OF OBJECT OF THE DAY  Saturday 22nd March
GALAXY    ra=236.72219399, dec=17.87267731,   ObjId = 587739810496708646
http://cas.sdss.org/astro/en/tools/explore/obj.asp?id=587739810496708646





New
Sadly another with the OII to far to the left
http://cas.sdss.org/astro/en/tools/explore/obj.asp?id=587739815316029666
GALAXY    ra=238.77772012, dec=20.92264841,   ObjId = 587739815316029666


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Re: Give peas a chance!
« Reply #944 on: March 23, 2008, 12:33:42 pm »
This is supposed to be a quasar star. Its chart is peaish.
I'm still not convinced that there isn't some formula stating that the OIII ( In my terms i think that means Triply ionised oxygen?) isn,t a certain percentage above the background.
These border line charts may tell us what processes are going on to go up to or come down from the supper high OIII? does anyone else think the same way? Sorry my chemistry stops at how much sugar to put in a cup of coffee. so I'm just guessing

This looks like a back to front chart
I don't fully understand z charts but Fermats Brother was saying that about .85 was the highest Z for a pea. The OIII seems at the wrong end of the chart
Maybe some one else understands? ( I,ve tried bashing my head against the wall it does't work for me, SIGH, LOL)
STAR    ra=208.06983235, dec=2.7573619,   ObjId = 587726033334567091
http://cas.sdss.org/astro/en/tools/explore/obj.asp?id=587726033334567091

Sorry if this doesn't make sense. I think like a marble in a bucket. LOL

Hi Galaxy Hunters Inc - " .....the OIII ( In my terms i think that means Triply ionised oxygen?)". No !!
OI = unionised oxygen
OII = single ionised oxygen
OIII = double ionised oxygen
OIV = triple ionised oxygen etc..

"...understand z charts but Fermats Brother was saying that about .85 was the highest Z for a pea".
The "charts" are spectral charts with z "values"
What I said was, that this was the highest z value at which you will be able to see OIII peaks in the spectrum, because of the spectrum cut-off.

As for your comments on the attached chart; there's no OIII peak, just a little OII peak.

BTW Quasars aren't considered to be "stars"; they're QSOs.
Cheers - Fermats Brother
« Last Edit: March 23, 2008, 12:45:14 pm by FermatsBrother »
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