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Re: We got observing time!
« Reply #15 on: December 24, 2007, 04:09:50 pm »
Congratulations!!!!   ;D
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Re: We got observing time!
« Reply #16 on: January 16, 2008, 08:15:33 pm »
A few folks may be interested in this article from our campus newspaper. The reporter emailed me some questions during the meeting in Austin last week. Quotation: "The discussion board shows a gratifying number of people keenly interested in learning more about my favorite astronomical objects". Yep! And reading online, you're spared the accompanying picture of me. (Hmm - maybe I should share the pictures from the AAS meeting showing a colleague and me demonstrating the overlapping-galaxy technique using our heads - and finding that they are highly opaque. Or maybe not.)


(This doesn't completely go here, but I just noticed that this set of threads doesn't let me open a new topic...)

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Re: We got observing time!
« Reply #17 on: January 16, 2008, 08:17:04 pm »
go on, post the photo! pretty please! ;D or maybe you could edit your 1st post in the overlaps thread and put it there as an example ;) :D

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Re: We got observing time!
« Reply #18 on: January 16, 2008, 08:42:20 pm »
I'll create one if you'd like me to!

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« Reply #19 on: April 09, 2008, 01:39:37 pm »
We're only a couple of weeks from the observing session to look at some of the overlapping galaxies pointed out by the good people of Galaxy Zoo, so it's high time for us to think about how to do this most effectively. We are scheduled for the nights of April 25-29, using the 3.5-meter WIYN telescope at Kitt Peak, Arizona. The timing is just right for the SDSS sample, since the northern galactic hemisphere that it covered most completely is up all night this time of year and the moon is waning and moving out of the way. Here are some outside and inside views of the telescope:





You can even see the current weather at Kitt Peak (as long as it's daylight there) using this webcam view - WIYN is at upper right, on the mountain horizon directly above the nearby University of Arizona telescopes.

We'll be using a fairly new CCD camera called OPTIC, which is visiting from the University of Hawaii. This camera has chips with a special architecture allowing the accumulating image to be moved around on the chip in any direction by purely electronic means, so it can keep up with atmospheric motions as long as there is a bright enough guide star in the right field of view. The advantage of doing this is that electrons can be moved around much faster than the whole telescope, and without introducing any mechanical vibrations. This device will help us work out how far out in redshift we can pursue galaxies for this project using ground-based telescopes.

Now - which galaxy pairs do we start with? You all have furnished a magnificent sample, something like 875 overlapping pairs that look useful for dust measurements by the time I fold in the last few weeks' harvest. I keep my target book for this project as a set of PDF files accessible from anywhere - for those who really want to see, the list is broken into four parts starting at right ascension zero, 10 hours = 150 degrees, 13 hours = 195 degrees, and 15 hours = 225 degrees. (These are really cool to flip through rapidly page by page). This huge sample gives us the luxury of being able to select our targets carefully, making sure to span ranges of foreground galaxy type and luminosity. An obvious starting point is the nearest galaxies, where we can see the most detail in the dust. We want to include pairs with both elliptical and spiral background galaxies; the dust detail is clearest when the background galaxy is smooth, but we also want to correlate with ultraviolet data from the GALEX satellite, and only spirals are bright enough in the UV to do this sensibly. If we think about choosing galaxies based on a score, we give them points for being bright and nearby, points for having two known and quite different redshifts, and points allocated according to how long the GALEX UV sky survey looked at that piece of the sky. But we also want to pick a few higher-redshift galaxies, at z=0.1 or greater, to show just how well we can measure their dust from the ground. (Recall that we do have pending Hubble proposals to do some of these, but there are something like 960 competing proposals for next year's observations and the oversubscription will be fierce). Our goal is to look at something like 50 pairs
for an hour each over the 5 nights, and naturally we want to start with the most interesting ones in case the weather goes downhill.

ZookeeperChris may be blogging during the observing run, and certainly we'll be getting action pictures. There are also plans for a writer to watch the action for a night and report the scene from a non-astronomer's perspective. We hope to be able to do some analysis near real-time and get dust maps to show how well the data match our needs; if so you'll be seeing some. I'm attaching a couple of images showing this on NGC 5544/5, which has been posted a couple of times in different threads (but from older data here). First the blue-light image shows the overall geometry. Then we have subtracted a symmetric model for the light from the foreground galaxy and divided by a symmetric model for the light of the background galaxy (both models being based on the data in the non-overlapping regions), giving a map of the absorption by dust in the overlap area. We hope to get a lot more of these.



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Re: We got observing time!
« Reply #20 on: April 09, 2008, 02:03:23 pm »
Great news.
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Re: We got observing time!
« Reply #21 on: April 09, 2008, 02:53:34 pm »
Whats the betting NGC3314 finds an excuse to point the telescope at SDSS J094103.80+344334.2 sometime over those 5 days?  ;D ;D ;D
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Re: We got observing time!
« Reply #22 on: April 09, 2008, 03:53:47 pm »
Excellent news. Have a fun time observing.  :) :) :) :)

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Re: We got observing time!
« Reply #23 on: April 09, 2008, 03:58:54 pm »
Whats the betting NGC3314 finds an excuse to point the telescope at SDSS J094103.80+344334.2 sometime over those 5 days?  ;D ;D ;D

Maybe. Or maybe not, because I had the change to get an hour of time on the adjacent 2.1-meter telescope while helping train a grad student a couple of weeks ago. Her filter choices even happened to fit for this. Not quite the right thread - but behold the Voorwerp in H-alpha and off of it. Now you see it, now you don't. Of course, there's always the chance we might see its starlight in the I band. And I suspect ZookeeperChris would't complain in the slightest...

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Re: We got observing time!
« Reply #24 on: April 09, 2008, 04:05:22 pm »
wonderful news 8) 8) 8)

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Re: We got observing time!
« Reply #25 on: April 09, 2008, 09:51:09 pm »
Make sure you enjoy your time while there... I feel this is one of those defining moments in life.

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Re: We got observing time!
« Reply #26 on: April 18, 2008, 04:32:39 am »
This is exciting news and I'm having a great time looking through those PDFs and I'm learning a lot.  I'll be a better analyzer now. :)

I was noticing that your Avatar NGC3314, is the first picture of each of the four PDFs then the 2nd pictures and the rest I believe, are all different.  Is that because you like that first picture best?

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Re: We got observing time!
« Reply #27 on: April 18, 2008, 06:48:22 am »
I think the first picture IS NGC3314!

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Re: We got observing time!
« Reply #28 on: April 18, 2008, 07:00:07 am »
Yes, but that's also his name on here.  I was addressing him by that name.  I noticed that each of the four PDFs have that picture as the first picture and at first I thought the second PDF was going to be the same pics as the first PDF because the first picture was the same.

I was also wondering if all of those pictures on the PDFs are confirmed mergers.

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Re: We got observing time!
« Reply #29 on: April 18, 2008, 07:07:15 am »
No, they are all Overlaps